DOS Games Network:::: - Author Message jcl6543 Guest Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: Simtower message using DosBox I downloaded a version of an old game by Maxis called Simtower. The site I download from said to try running using DosBox if I got an initial 'NoDisk' error.
I followed the directions for Dosbox: mount c c: games simtower then I typed c: to get the promt. The only executable file I see is SETUP.EXE and when I type it and hit enter it reads: This Program Requires Microsoft Windows Does anyone know what this error/message means? I'm not too savvy on the PC and was just wondering if anyone could offer any help. If you need any more info from me just ask and I'd be glad to share it if it'll help solve my problem. Emmzee Site Admin Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: It won't run in DOSBox because SimTower is a Windows game, not a DOS game. Try running SETUP.EXE in Windows Explorer and hopefully it'll install. More info on SimTower: jcl6543 Guest Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: Simtower II I tried running from windows.
That's when I got the initial error that said 'NoDisk found' That's when I thought I needed Dosbox. I will try again though when I get home from work at 20:00 est. Thank you much for replying. Badlife Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Location: Haifa, Israel Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Simtower II hmm.
I downloaded simtower too (and it still in my PC) and i listend to those idiots that writen 'Workes w DosBox' and it dident ran. So i open windows explorer, opened the game folder, started Setup.exe, installed the game and ran it and it works fine. If you ran setup.exe from a zip rar and you closed WinZip Rar before the install began it well delet the temporary files (lets just say that when you run a file from WinZip Rar it extracts all the files that assciated w the file you ran. And when you closing WinZip Rar it is deleting the files it have extracted.) so when you ran install and closed WinZip Rar it deleted the cd files (The files that store the files that needed to be extracted) and it counts that you dont have a CD (Who knows, maybe these game was solled out in 2 CDs.) in other words. If you are running setup.exe from an archive. Dont close it.
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Emmzee Site Admin Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: Yea if you continue to have trouble with the version of SimTower you have, try downloading the version from The Underdogs link above, it may work better. Dosraider Admin Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Location: ROTFLMAO in Belgium. Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: For those who are getting an error message regarding those disks: Step 1: Unzip all files in a temp dir, let say in c: sttemp Step2: Edit c: sttemp setup.inf, under header Source Media Descriptions The 3 first lines must point correctly where the install files are stored. Original: Code: Source Media Descriptions '1', 'SimTower Disk 1', 'readme.wr', '.
Disk1' '2', 'SimTower Disk 2', 'simtower.e1', '. Disk2' '3', 'SimTower Disk 3', 'simtower.e2', '. Disk3' Alter those 3 lines to: Code: Source Media Descriptions '1', 'c: sttemp', 'readme.wr', '. Sttemp' '2', 'c: sttemp', 'simtower.e1', '.
Sttemp' '3', 'c: sttemp', 'simtower.e2', '. Sttemp' (use copypaste, or DON'T MAKE ANY TYPOS!!!!) Run setup in XP, the installer will find his files now.
To run the game on Xp, better set comp to W95 or W98 and 256colors. Vista users can encounter extra 'protection' problems, better use dosbox and W3.x in it. Badlife wrote.and it counts that you dont have a CD (Who knows, maybe these game was solled out in 2 CDs.) WTF? This game is pre-CD, it came on 3 floppydisks, that's where the error message comes from when all are stored in one folder. Badlife wrote: hmm.
I downloaded simtower too (and it still in my PC) and i listend to those idiots that writen 'Workes w DosBox' and it dident ran. Maybe 'those idiots' aren't idiots, maybe they are right you know. Install W3.x in dosbox, the game runs fine in it. Yes, you can run W3.x perfectly in dosbox, if you didn't know that. And as Simtower IS a W3.x game. Be a bit carefull before calling someone 'idiot', it could blow right back in your face.Edit In fact it even runs better in dosbox/W3.11 than in XP: jcl6543 Guest Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: simtower III Thank you for the help dosraider. Your solution worked like a charm.
I appreciate the info and for taking the time to help those less experienced like myself. Jcl6543 Guest Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: simtower IV Now that I got the game to work I have two other questions that maybe someone could help out with.
During game play my mouse seems to be doing its own thing making it impossible to use it. Is there a fix for that? I looked in the game settings but found none. Also when maximized the game only takes up about half my screen I used the arrows to widen it but it only gets a little bigger. Any way to make it full screen? Thanks in advance for any help. Dosraider Admin Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Location: ROTFLMAO in Belgium.
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: About your screen: The game is max in 800x600, you can't get it wider. If your normal sceenres is set higher (Usually is on modern systems) you can only get a full screen by rightclicking on your desktop, and set the res to 800x600 before you run the game. Then you will have fullscreen. But it won't look very good.
About your mouse: As the game is a 16bit game it uses the mouse.drv that is in windows system instead of the usual one. If your mouse (hardware) is not 100% compatible with it, it won't work good. Several modern mouses have problems on older games due that fact.
You can eventually look @ the manufacturers site if there are adequate 16 bit mouse drivers for your mouse. But, again 'but', usually you won't find those. None writes 16 bit drivers anymore.
Possible solutions if you can't play the game: Install dosbox 0.72 and win3.x in it or: VPC + W3.x, W95 or W98. VPC or Dosbox +W3.x will solve all your problems, as the act as a go between for that old game on newer systems.
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The game runs fine in both. What you also can try: Plug in an older 'classic' 3button mouse That may be an USB one. If not USB: don't hotplug! XP and Vista can handle those older mouse. Up to you to decide if one game is worth it. Wally King of the Carrot Flowers Joined: 01 May 2003 Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: if you still are having problems, there is always the mac version. Its also avaliable at the underdogs, you can use sheepshaver / Basilisk 2 w/e Works like a charm Larry Laffer Admin Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Location: Romania Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: Emulating mac, to play a game instead of emulating windows?
Isn't that overkill? No wait, overkill would be emulating mac, in order to emulate windows in order to play the game. Dosraider Admin Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Location: ROTFLMAO in Belgium. Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: I have only two problems with those Mac emus: One: You need a Rom to get them running. Even if you can download those, when you do so it's highly illegal stuff you download. So it seems afterall that Mac isn't much better than MS when it comes to 'open source' software.
C'mon, you should BUY a Rom for a completely absolete MacOS system emu? Two: They aren't easy in use, NO Wally, they aren't. Jcl6543 Guest Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: Simtower V Thanks again for the help guys. The small screen I can deal with but the mouse just makes the game too annoying to play. Can you just please reiterate exactly what I need to do to fix the mouse? I read the post above and still need a little extra help.
I understnad I need to get a 16 bit driver, and I've links to onbtain one but not sure how it all goes with the game? Dosraider said: Possible solutions if you can't play the game: Install dosbox 0.72 and win3.x in it or: VPC + W3.x, W95 or W98. VPC or Dosbox +W3.x will solve all your problems, as the act as a go between for that old game on newer systems. The game runs fine in both. Or what is W3.x?
I'm just really far away from understanding this terminology. No big deal if I can't get it to play correctly. I hate to keep asking questions. Thanks again for the help in this thread. I appreciate the time spent on the replies.
Larry Laffer Admin Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Location: Romania Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: VPC stands for Virtual PC, which is a er. It's a program that allows you to set up and run another operating system without messing in any way with your current system setup. You simply set up the amount of space you want to give to the virtual RAM and HDD. Er, yea, I can't really explain this very well, you'd be better off seeing for yourself!
(Yes, it's a Microsoft Product ) It's really easy to learn to use(especially if you read the enclosed readme file) As for W3.x. That's Windows 3.x(e.g. url=3.1/url) which came before Windows 95! Fact is, the alternative to DOSBox, would be to install Virtual PC, with an older Windows(3.1, 95 or 98 - yes, you need to have install disks for those), and play the game in it's native environment!
Hope this is any clearer! Dosraider Admin Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Location: ROTFLMAO in Belgium. Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Simtower V Wh00t, lot's of questions. Jcl6543 wrote: I understnad I need to get a 16 bit driver, and I've links to onbtain one but not sure how it all goes with the game? The game is and needs 16 bits drivers. Also for your mouse. Installing the appropiate 16 bit mouse drivers for your mouse will help to get correct mouse respons in the game.
However don't expect too much of it, most 16 bit drivers for newer hardware are pretty buggy ourdays. It will be trial and error. Jcl6543 wrote: dosraider said: Possible solutions if you can't play the game: Install dosbox 0.72 and win3.x in it or: VPC + W3.x, W95 or W98. VPC or Dosbox +W3.x will solve all your problems, as the act as a go between for that old game on newer systems. The game runs fine in both. Or what is W3.x? I'm just really far away from understanding this terminology.
No big deal if I can't get it to play correctly. I hate to keep asking questions. W3.x= Windows 3.x ( can be W3.11, WfW.) Howto install in dosbox., it creates a virtual stand alone PC in your PC, you can install/run other OSes in it. Dosbox and VPC are freeware, but you will need a copy of W3.x to install in it. And a copy of MSDos 6.22 for VPC also, as VPC emulates a 'naked' PC.As you ask a lot of questions about it, it seems you ain't very familiar with W3.x, so I doubt if that's the solution for your problems. Jcl6543 wrote: Thanks again for the help in this thread. I appreciate the time spent on the replies.
You're welcome.Edit Shut up Larry. Score: Je: 3 - You: 0 jcl6543 Guest Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: Simtower Simtower is working fine thanks to the help I received in this forum. Thanks again for getting me up and running and on my way. Much appreciated and will certainly comeback here for any related questions.
Game runs good now and keeps me amused for an hour or more a day. Take care, Jeff - Poughkeepsie, NY dosraider Admin Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Location: ROTFLMAO in Belgium. Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: Glad we could help you. Enjoy the game. Shut up Larry. Display posts from previous: - All times are GMT - 5 Hours Page 1 of 1. This game requires shader model 3.0 mortal kombat.
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I have a DOS accounting application that I run on several platforms. Under Windows XP I run it from the command prompt, and on Windows 7 and 8 I would like to run it from DosBox. However, the accounting application actually makes use of Winword. When it has generated a text file it may execute a command RUN winword.exe. Blackberry desktop software free download. This works fine when the accounting application is started from the command prompt (under XP).
But when it is started from DosBox, this error is displayed: indent This program cannot be run in DOS mode /indent I get the same result if (at the Dosbox prompt), I key in 'winword.exe'. By comparison, if I fire up the normal command prompt and key in the same command, Microsoft Word can be invoked.
It seems that DosBox is rather more restrictive. Is there any way round this? Andrew RE: DosBox - running a Windows application (Programmer) 20 Mar 14 13:50. The command prompt where the command to run (e.g.) winword.exe is. System32 cmd.exe. From the window that this displays I can navigate to the OFFICE11 where winword.exe is located, and when I key that in, it creates a Microsoft Word session which does what I want.
Forgive me, I don't know whether my version of DosBox is 16 or 32 bit. It is version 0.74, and I suspect that my Windows 7 machine is a 32-bit machine. It seems that DosBox provides many features similar to DOS, but does not support the facility to run a Windows app (like winword.exe). I just wondered if there is any way round this!
Again, thanks for your help. RE: DosBox - running a Windows application (MIS) 20 Mar 14 19:06. Why are you wanting to use DosBox then? DosBox emulates a pure Dos environment with none of the Windows support to run windowed applications. If you need access to Word, keep using cmd.exe or the command prompt in Windows 7 and 8. Phil AKA Vacunita - Ignorance is not necessarily Bliss, case in point: Unknown has caused an Unknown Error on Unknown and must be shutdown to prevent damage to Unknown.
RE: DosBox - running a Windows application (Programmer). The reason that I am running DOSBox is that I have a 32-bit (Clipper) application which used to run under cmd.exe in Windows XP.
However it will not run within cmd.exe in Windows 7, because (I understand) this environment only supports 64-bit applications. Under Windows XP, the cmd.exe environment was both able to run 32-bit applications and also to execute windows commands (like winword.exe). Under Windows 7 the 32-bit application seems only to run under DosBox, but I then no longer have the ability to call Microsoft Word from it. I wondered if there was a way round this.
Andrew RE: DosBox - running a Windows application (MIS) 28 Mar 14 08:05. do you mean command.com or cmd.exe? 64bit versions of Windows (and the OP has latterly suggested that they are using 64bit) don't have command.com.
And that's where the problem starts; command.com is what used to provide backwards compatibility with 16bit applications on the 32bit platforms. An it is 16bit apps that the 64bit platforms won't run. And Clipper apps are 16bit, not 32bit, as far as I remember (unless the code has been recompiled with one of the newer compilers such as Harbour or xHarbour). RE: DosBox - running a Windows application (TechnicalUser) 28 Mar 14 08:32.
I tend to agree with strongm. 32 bit apps should pose no issue. The issue would be if the application was 16 bit. Have you tried to run the Clpper App in Windows 7?
You could even set some parameters for the cmd.exe or even a short cut to command.com to run in XP compatibility mode if necessary. You can even adjust the extended memory if the App requires it. Phil AKA Vacunita - Ignorance is not necessarily Bliss, case in point: Unknown has caused an Unknown Error on Unknown and must be shutdown to prevent damage to Unknown.
RE: DosBox - running a Windows application (Programmer) 28 Mar 14 12:40. I am running Windows 7 32 bit. I can run FoxPro DOS just fine, by double-clicking in Explorer and not from a separate DOS session or virtual machine. I can also open MS Word (or various other windows apps) from FoxPro DOS, so you should be able to do the same with Clipper. W7 64 bit will not run 16 bit apps, but 32 bit will.
Of course, the app you want to run needs to either be available in the PATH environment or you will need to provide the full DOS path to the app. For example, my version of Word resides in c: Program Files Microsoft Office Office14. The DOS path is C: PROGRA1 MICROS1 OFFICE14 WINWORD.EXE -Dave Summers- Even more Fox stuff.